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Jung Blood 
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 12:18 AM
Hmmm...Most of what you've said is pretty negative. Is this really about typing your brother? I'm sorry to hear that you have to deal with all of that! Sounds pretty damn annoying....but does he have any positive traits other than his interest in the stock market?
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DefectiveCreative
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 05:01 AM
Not sure about his MBTI type but he sounds like a fairly unhealthy type 3 on the enneagram to me.
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Level 6: Want to impress others with their superiority: constantly promoting themselves, making themselves sound better than they really are. Narcissistic, with grandiose, inflated notions about themselves and their talents. Exhibitionistic and seductive, as if saying "Look at me!" Arrogance and contempt for others is a defense against feeling jealous of others and their success.
Level 7: Fearing failure and humiliation, they can be exploitative and opportunistic, covetous of the success of others, and willing to do "whatever it takes" to preserve the illusion of their superiority.
Level 8: Devious and deceptive so that their mistakes and wrongdoings will not be exposed. Untrustworthy, maliciously betraying or sabotaging people to triumph over them. Delusionally jealous of others
http://www.enneagram...m/TypeThree.asp
Level 7: Fearing failure and humiliation, they can be exploitative and opportunistic, covetous of the success of others, and willing to do "whatever it takes" to preserve the illusion of their superiority.
Level 8: Devious and deceptive so that their mistakes and wrongdoings will not be exposed. Untrustworthy, maliciously betraying or sabotaging people to triumph over them. Delusionally jealous of others
http://www.enneagram...m/TypeThree.asp
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Jung Blood
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 11:47 AM
BTW Teal. My deepest apologies. Just noticed that you didn't want to be quoted so I went ahead and corrected that.
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 10:04 PM
My initial impression is ESTP.
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ShashiJapan4
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Posted 07 February 2010 - 02:14 AM
Young INTP, with a superiority complex.
Methinks a high J is there; but doesn't totally overtake the P.
How cleanly is he? Does generally not care about what he's wearing or does he usually... Uh... Give a damn? How about being in class on time and paying attention?
Def-totes I.
N is most certain, he's probably interested in probability- He's watching things play out to predict them more, I would think.
Oh yeah. He's a T.
P and J are the hardest to figure out, in retrospect though. This is why I'm thinking half-way P/J. He pays attention to stock markets. Either that's a very high N, or it's a very good J.
INTP and INTJ are most likely. Just in my opinion though.
He'll probably develop more J later though.
Edit: Still the same. He's chillaxing a bit. But that could either be his P chilling out with the actual situation or it could be his J telling himself to hold off and have ammunition for later. Seems he has a very strong interest in his control- And he learns very quick. A superiority complex like that and a high J can be mean. Especially if they feel they're bitter or are owed something.
Methinks a high J is there; but doesn't totally overtake the P.
How cleanly is he? Does generally not care about what he's wearing or does he usually... Uh... Give a damn? How about being in class on time and paying attention?
Def-totes I.
N is most certain, he's probably interested in probability- He's watching things play out to predict them more, I would think.
Oh yeah. He's a T.
P and J are the hardest to figure out, in retrospect though. This is why I'm thinking half-way P/J. He pays attention to stock markets. Either that's a very high N, or it's a very good J.
INTP and INTJ are most likely. Just in my opinion though.
He'll probably develop more J later though.
Edit: Still the same. He's chillaxing a bit. But that could either be his P chilling out with the actual situation or it could be his J telling himself to hold off and have ammunition for later. Seems he has a very strong interest in his control- And he learns very quick. A superiority complex like that and a high J can be mean. Especially if they feel they're bitter or are owed something.
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Jung Blood
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Posted 07 February 2010 - 05:25 AM
Sounds like an interesting guy with maturity and security issues. He also may be under challenged in life (bored). Suggest to your parents that he join some kind of competitive program that will help develop his talents as well as teach some kind of god damn humility (like how they do in martial arts). I'm serious, because it sounds like that is exactly the kind of holistic experience he needs right now...
You both are learning to deal with each other and hopefully you two will eventually be able to look back at these moments with laughter as you get older.
You sound like you already have a positive understanding of what types he may be...and I wouldn't doubt that he's an ENTP. To me he sounds obviously NT, but I'd need more info about his habits and interests to confidently guess any further than that.
Also, keep in mind that it's a scientific fact that you and your brother are going through some hormonal/physiological changes that are likely to be affecting your judgment and emotional response. One way or another, we are all victims of our biology, but teenage years are especially emotionally confusing, because of the unique changes that teens go through. So you have to take that into consideration when trying to type someone who's only 14yo. The science may not be the same as typing an adult....especially an adult over 30, because studies have shown that the brain continues to develop even through out one's 20s.
You also have to take into consideration the new psychological experiences that teens go through, like:
- the struggle or coping with newly becoming a young adult (whether or not he is aware of his struggles, this has a multitude of psychological implications)
- the learning of humility, modesty and doing things in moderation (something that a lot of people don't learn until later into adulthood)
- he's a boy (he may be intelligent and developing physically, but boys mature later, so take that into consideration since he's only 14yo....the kid's still a kid.)
- coping with discovering their place in this world (something adults go through, but can be more troubling for teens for a million reasons),
- a lack of self understanding (or the development of metacognition). Learning about how you think is a life long journey, but again.
So on and so on...
P.S. As an experiment, maybe you can let him have the last word and stay out of his way when he seeks to challenge you by saying things like "Hmm...that's an interesting theory." or "Hey, maybe you're on to something!"...just to see what his reaction will be. If you take a "I'm being the more secure, mature or 'bigger' person with more important things to do with my time" type of attitude, would he pick up on that and try to mimic you? Would he become even more arrogant? Would he get the impression that you don't think that you're "above" him and leave you alone since there's nothing left to challenge? Or would he just continue try to tempt you back into arguing with him in an attempt to confirm some kind of intellectual dominance over you?
You both are learning to deal with each other and hopefully you two will eventually be able to look back at these moments with laughter as you get older.
You sound like you already have a positive understanding of what types he may be...and I wouldn't doubt that he's an ENTP. To me he sounds obviously NT, but I'd need more info about his habits and interests to confidently guess any further than that.
Also, keep in mind that it's a scientific fact that you and your brother are going through some hormonal/physiological changes that are likely to be affecting your judgment and emotional response. One way or another, we are all victims of our biology, but teenage years are especially emotionally confusing, because of the unique changes that teens go through. So you have to take that into consideration when trying to type someone who's only 14yo. The science may not be the same as typing an adult....especially an adult over 30, because studies have shown that the brain continues to develop even through out one's 20s.
You also have to take into consideration the new psychological experiences that teens go through, like:
- the struggle or coping with newly becoming a young adult (whether or not he is aware of his struggles, this has a multitude of psychological implications)
- the learning of humility, modesty and doing things in moderation (something that a lot of people don't learn until later into adulthood)
- he's a boy (he may be intelligent and developing physically, but boys mature later, so take that into consideration since he's only 14yo....the kid's still a kid.)
- coping with discovering their place in this world (something adults go through, but can be more troubling for teens for a million reasons),
- a lack of self understanding (or the development of metacognition). Learning about how you think is a life long journey, but again.
So on and so on...
P.S. As an experiment, maybe you can let him have the last word and stay out of his way when he seeks to challenge you by saying things like "Hmm...that's an interesting theory." or "Hey, maybe you're on to something!"...just to see what his reaction will be. If you take a "I'm being the more secure, mature or 'bigger' person with more important things to do with my time" type of attitude, would he pick up on that and try to mimic you? Would he become even more arrogant? Would he get the impression that you don't think that you're "above" him and leave you alone since there's nothing left to challenge? Or would he just continue try to tempt you back into arguing with him in an attempt to confirm some kind of intellectual dominance over you?
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