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Posted 01 July 2009 - 01:22 PM

I haven't had sex for a while, so I will go up to a person I think is attractive and say "Hi, I am looking for someone to have sexual relations with and I was wondering if you would like to." I am sure it will work, so why don't many people do that instead of fooling around with games in bars?
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 01:34 PM

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I haven't had sex for a while, so I will go up to a person I think is attractive and say "Hi, I am looking for someone to have sexual relations with and I was wondering if you would like to." I am sure it will work, so why don't many people do that instead of fooling around with games in bars?


Nice idea if you just want sex but depending on your looks you'll probably have to take 10 or 20 rejections before you hit the jackpot.

I'd guess people don't do it because they either don't just want sex or fear rejection.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 01:34 PM

Do you have your STD test results in an easy to read pamphlet? If not, you are missing the boat marketing wise.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 01:34 PM

I was seriously thinking about trying that one night while I was drinking. I was sure it'd work, actually. Then, I decided to smoke a bit...

Unfortunately, pot leaves the waste, down paralyzed for me.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 01:52 PM

bergenski said:

I haven't had sex for a while, so I will go up to a person I think is attractive and say "Hi, I am looking for someone to have sexual relations with and I was wondering if you would like to." I am sure it will work, so why don't many people do that instead of fooling around with games in bars?


I've heard of other guys trying it, and was told that you would get slapped occasionally, but the ones who go for it appreciate your honesty. I think the guy I heard about got rejected about 9/10 times, which is probably still less time-consuming than playing the slow pickup game. :laugh:
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 06:47 AM

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I've heard of other guys trying it, and was told that you would get slapped occasionally, but the ones who go for it appreciate your honesty. I think the guy I heard about got rejected about 9/10 times, which is probably still less time-consuming than playing the slow pickup game. :laugh:


Heh. I think I know just the guy you were talking about.

I was always a little more subtle, but no less honest about what I wanted when I was trolling... Keeping a weather eye out for the ones that are attracted to you is a good way to up the odds quite a bit.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 07:32 AM

bergenski said:

I haven't had sex for a while, so I will go up to a person I think is attractive and say "Hi, I am looking for someone to have sexual relations with and I was wondering if you would like to." I am sure it will work, so why don't many people do that instead of fooling around with games in bars?


I dont knowwwwwww.

I think its best to just get them to gradually like you so there's less risk of rejection, infection, and at the end of the night, you wont be needing masturbation,
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:41 AM

John said:

Heh. I think I know just the guy you were talking about.

I was always a little more subtle, but no less honest about what I wanted when I was trolling... Keeping a weather eye out for the ones that are attracted to you is a good way to up the odds quite a bit.

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:laugh: Yeah, honesty is good. I prefer a bit of subtlety myself, but direct honesty is better than BS. Good tip about keeping an eye out for who is attracted, so true.

Munch - I think the direct approach prob'ly works better for people over 25 in bars, than it would in high school.
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 02:07 PM

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Do you have your STD test results in an easy to read pamphlet? If not, you are missing the boat marketing wise.

Actually, no, because my results would not be good promotional content. :)

I don't really understand the risk of rejection idea....it's a lot better to get rejected in two seconds than to spend a night and some dollars pursuing some chick and then getting rejected...especially if she just leads you on to get the booze.

I mean, you try five, six women in a short time and I am sure one would be "OK"
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 03:17 PM

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Actually, no, because my results would not be good promotional content. :)

I don't really understand the risk of rejection idea....it's a lot better to get rejected in two seconds than to spend a night and some dollars pursuing some chick and then getting rejected...especially if she just leads you on to get the booze.

I mean, you try five, six women in a short time and I am sure one would be "OK"


Because you getting a girl like that is wrong for so many reasons. You will come off as a desperate loser thats only intersted in sex,. Who wants to spend the nigiht with some flunatic, when you could get to know them first. not me. Besides nobody goes to a club without the intent to get laid afterward, so if sex is already on their mind you just have to make them want it from you, not from some loser that just walks up to her and asks for it.

Besides that too, girls never travel alone. Just go there to have a good time and talk to people. When talking to a group of people observe who's interested and then take it from there.

or maybe thats juts highschool chicks.
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Posted 08 July 2009 - 11:52 AM

bergenski said:

I haven't had sex for a while, so I will go up to a person I think is attractive and say "Hi, I am looking for someone to have sexual relations with and I was wondering if you would like to." I am sure it will work, so why don't many people do that instead of fooling around with games in bars?


Let us know how it goes.

My thoughts on the topic: the courting stage is basically a filter, or an elaborate IQ test.

Walking up to someone and asking for sex can be done by anyone, which is probably why it's not done by many. It's succumbing to the lowest common denominator, whether you're the initiator or the subject of interest. It's just one step above the butt-sniffage that happens in certain parts of the animal kingdom. If you have any standards beyond looks, this approach is too risky, because you never know what you're going to get.

When you're a woman, you have a distinct advantage in the sexual market place. Just as in any market, a seller will always try to get the highest price for their product (and a buyer will always try to get the lowest, which is why you're advocating this approach).

With that in mind, even if all you are looking for is instant gratification in the form of sex, chances are that when someone displays a certain measure of intelligence and ability to handle the complexity and challenges associated with the courtship stage, some of that intelligence could be transferable to the bedroom. In other words, they are more likely to please you when push comes to shove as opposed to someone who is dumb as a brick.

Of course, there are likely very intelligent people who can't be bothered to waste time with silly, arbitrary courtship rituals, because they are applying their time and effort to different arenas. But chances are that those people don't usually have to go out of their way to solicit sex in the first place.
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Posted 08 July 2009 - 03:12 PM

azca said:

Let us know how it goes.

My thoughts on the topic: the courting stage is basically a filter, or an elaborate IQ test.

Walking up to someone and asking for sex can be done by anyone, which is probably why it's not done by many. It's succumbing to the lowest common denominator, whether you're the initiator or the subject of interest. It's just one step above the butt-sniffage that happens in certain parts of the animal kingdom. If you have any standards beyond looks, this approach is too risky, because you never know what you're going to get.

When you're a woman, you have a distinct advantage in the sexual market place. Just as in any market, a seller will always try to get the highest price for their product (and a buyer will always try to get the lowest, which is why you're advocating this approach).

With that in mind, even if all you are looking for is instant gratification in the form of sex, chances are that when someone displays a certain measure of intelligence and ability to handle the complexity and challenges associated with the courtship stage, some of that intelligence could be transferable to the bedroom. In other words, they are more likely to please you when push comes to shove as opposed to someone who is dumb as a brick.

Of course, there are likely very intelligent people who can't be bothered to waste time with silly, arbitrary courtship rituals, because they are applying their time and effort to different arenas. But chances are that those people don't usually have to go out of their way to solicit sex in the first place.


Good answer intimidating Noob

The obvious answer is approach someone and say ya wanna have sex......to someone who actually sells sex......stoopid

And if you play it right (walk by them) they may ask you if you want oral sex

Play coy at first.....it heightens the romantic tension.......engage her in frivolous small talk .........so as to create a mental connection......find someplace odd to be blown........ so as to increase the danger energy......have her call you Snuggle Bunny....... so as to create false intimacy......then pay your money...... and enjoy the ride
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Posted 31 July 2009 - 09:27 AM

bergenski said:

I haven't had sex for a while, so I will go up to a person I think is attractive and say "Hi, I am looking for someone to have sexual relations with and I was wondering if you would like to." I am sure it will work, so why don't many people do that instead of fooling around with games in bars?


Of my list of requirements for women I would sleep with, one of them definitely on the top would be if I just randomly walked up and asked for sex she would say yes. I enjoy sex too much to risk an STD with someone so promiscuous.
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Posted 31 July 2009 - 09:46 AM

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Of my list of requirements for women I would sleep with, one of them definitely on the top would be if I just randomly walked up and asked for sex she would say yes. I enjoy sex too much to risk an STD with someone so promiscuous.


What if she has big boobs and a nice ass?

And you are drunk

What then smart guy?

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 08:07 PM

You don't do it because you come off as many things that are extremely unattractive to women, namely, desperate, stupid, creepy, weird, unemotional, blunt and crude. Maybe some girl will go for it, but she'll undoubtedly be the classic ugly girl at the bar that will literally take anything she can get.





Of course if you're a woman, you will experience extremely high rates of success with this technique.
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 11:04 PM

azca said:

Let us know how it goes.

My thoughts on the topic: the courting stage is basically a filter, or an elaborate IQ test.

Walking up to someone and asking for sex can be done by anyone, which is probably why it's not done by many. It's succumbing to the lowest common denominator, whether you're the initiator or the subject of interest. It's just one step above the butt-sniffage that happens in certain parts of the animal kingdom. If you have any standards beyond looks, this approach is too risky, because you never know what you're going to get.

When you're a woman, you have a distinct advantage in the sexual market place. Just as in any market, a seller will always try to get the highest price for their product (and a buyer will always try to get the lowest, which is why you're advocating this approach).

With that in mind, even if all you are looking for is instant gratification in the form of sex, chances are that when someone displays a certain measure of intelligence and ability to handle the complexity and challenges associated with the courtship stage, some of that intelligence could be transferable to the bedroom. In other words, they are more likely to please you when push comes to shove as opposed to someone who is dumb as a brick.

Of course, there are likely very intelligent people who can't be bothered to waste time with silly, arbitrary courtship rituals, because they are applying their time and effort to different arenas. But chances are that those people don't usually have to go out of their way to solicit sex in the first place.



You are assuming that the people being courted are logical, and that they understand what is attractive to them instead of just how they feel.

I have tried this, successfully, many times. Like everything else it isn't what you say, it is how you say it.

Saying it with the look that says "I have been watching you for five hours and really need to blow my load" is creepy.

Saying it with the demeanor that says "I'm highly sexual, no bullshit guy, and I find you attractive, here is what I am offering. Take it or leave it I dont care." and it will work.

I also highly recommend looking your best with this approach, as they have nothing else to go on, except your balls of steel :biggrin:.

Also this works best with secure mature women (over 24) who are honest and are sick of game playing. Choosing women who are already showing that they think your attractive also REALLY helps your odds.
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Posted 15 August 2009 - 05:50 PM

azca said:

When you're a woman, you have a distinct advantage in the sexual market place.


Well, if you're an attractive woman. :)

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Saying it with the look that says "I have been watching you for five hours and really need to blow my load" is creepy.

Saying it with the demeanor that says "I'm highly sexual, no bullshit guy, and I find you attractive, here is what I am offering. Take it or leave it I dont care." and it will work.

I also highly recommend looking your best with this approach, as they have nothing else to go on, except your balls of steel :biggrin:.


Anything can be successful if said correctly.

One dating guru said the key to success, the "difference that makes the difference," is "indifference." That doesn't mean you're apathetic, it just means you're okay no matter what the outcome is. If you have this attitude that will come through in your approach and you can get away with saying almost anything.
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Posted 15 August 2009 - 06:04 PM

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Anything can be successful if said correctly.

One dating guru said the key to success, the "difference that makes the difference," is "indifference." That doesn't mean you're apathetic, it just means you're okay no matter what the outcome is. If you have this attitude that will come through in your approach and you can get away with saying almost anything.


I think the word "indifference" is misleading. Even if I was looking for a one night stand, if some guy came up and asked me but seemed "indifferent", that would be a turnoff, like he's not really that interested, I just happen to be the first girl he decided to approach in his numbers game. Blech.

I think what he really meant was that *confidence* is the key. Not asshole confidence, but damn-you're-hot-so-am-I-what-are-we-waiting-for confidence. You can even looked a bit crushed after rejection if you're also confident. I would find it endearing if he looked a bit crushed after I said no. If he was completely *indifferent*, I would find it creepy and be glad I said no.

The guys I've seen attract girls are the ones who look at us a certain way, not in a creepy way, but in an endearing, sexy way, like you can see the passion in their eyes, you can see that they think highly of the girl they're looking at *and* himself. There's a certain sexy look that is a big turn-on for a lot of women, like he's looking into her eyes with a gleam and imagining giving her an orgasm.
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Posted 15 August 2009 - 09:41 PM

When you go to a bar, the one night stand thing is already a given, so to bring it out in the open makes you seem desperate. Nobody wants someone desperate.

Talk to the girl and make her like you so you actually have a shot, take your time, make her want it more than you do. Whats the rush anyways you have all night
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Posted 15 August 2009 - 10:13 PM

Pulled up this thread tonight. The banner ad says "Got Herpes....date other people with herpes. h-date.com.

Unbelievable.
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